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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:23 pm 
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Subject: seen this#2 from angling times

Steve Partner: The dark heart of twitching

By Steve Partner
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13 January 2010 09:29
It's a story that I guarantee will ignite fury in every angler from Exeter to Elgin. And if it doesn't you've neither a sense of justice nor fair play. For the sake of those who missed it, let me relate the facts. No conjecture, no spin, no bias. Just the cold, clear and precise detail.
Malcolm Rigby, under instruction from St Helens Angling Association, visited Carr Mill Dam to legally shoot a single cormorant in accordance with a licence the club had obtained from the government.
Having successfully completed the task, the 63-year-old was returning to his car via the public path that surrounds the venue. It was at this point he was challenged by a man, almost certainly a birdwatcher, who had been spying on him while he undertook the shoot. Malcolm was then verbally abused before being punched in the face. Unable to defend himself because he had his hands full with gun, dead cormorant and a dog lead, he turned away, only to be subjected to the epitome of cowardice: he was repeatedly punched in the back.
The attack, which some of the better informed are suggesting may have been committed by a 'heavy' paid for by the birdwatching fraternity that also use Carr Mill Dam, left him with a broken nose and cracked ribs. All this for simply helping a fishing club safeguard its stock. Sometimes, rarely, words fail me.
While this level of abuse might be mercifully rare, the assault once again highlights the very real animosity that exists between anglers and a body of people that I have grown to thoroughly dislike in my time as a fishing journalist.
It's not that I don't get birdwatching (although the idea of travelling hundreds of miles to sit in a hide hoping to catching a fleeting glimpse of a ferruginous duck or paddyfield warbler is a somewhat alien concept) because I actually quite enjoy seeing them in a their one-piece-of-the-jigsaw-that-make-up-the-countryside way. It's more that I find those that do it so unbearably sanctimonious about the creatures they choose to spy on.
It's as if birds, above everything else in the living kingdom, deserve some kind of higher, near-biblical status, and heaven forfend anyone who dares think otherwise. And, as anglers, we are barely rated above shooters in the eyes of these people. Despite most fishermen being nature lovers, it appears we are all tarred with the same brush of contempt. We leave litter. We discard hooks and line. We use poisonous lead. We kill birds.
This is, of course, utter nonsense. But it doesn't stop birdwatchers and its representative body, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds doing everything they can to make us out to be callous murderers. Be in no doubt, the vast majority of these people would have our sport banned tomorrow if they could.
Here's a thing. When I started putting this piece together I did some background research on the subject. And far from being the preserve of mild eccentrics like the nauseating Bill Oddie, I found a world populated by obsessives, a world full of jealousy, hate and skullduggery. I read stories of bitter rivalries, with men prepared to go to extreme lengths to out-do the other. If you thought birdwatching was largely restricted to gardens and parks, think again.
I learnt of mobile phone and pager-carrying armies, ready to mobilise at the moment a dark-eyed junco, Baird's sandpiper, desert wheatear or long-billed dowitcher is inadvertently blown off course into some remote outpost of the UK. I discovered how these fanatics think nothing of travelling upwards of 80,000 miles in a year, spending thousands of pounds chasing around the British Isles by road, air and sea in the desire to clock up as many different birds as possible.
The most fervent of what are more commonly known as twitchers essentially bird watching's paramilitary wing can spot more than 350 species in 12 months.
Lee Evans was a name that cropped up more than any other. In the twitching world, this man is, or was before his 'retirement', God. Not only is he in the Guinness Book of Records for seeing the most species of bird in a calendar year in Britain 359 in 1990 he's also a man who used to travel by private jet to beat his rivals to get a rare sighting. By his own admission, his obsession dominated his life.
How about this for a quote once attributed to him?
"It's like a drug. I can't control it. If someone rings me with news of a bird, I get jittery. I can't cope with not seeing it," he said.
Who would have guessed the Fellowship of Anorak, Binoculars and Flask could be so serious? Serious and sad.
But I digress. Everyone is, of course, entitled to pursue any hobby they wish and the point I'm making is that this often bizarre avian world has simply been the beneficiary of some extremely clever marketing.
In the RSPB (membership one million-plus), birdwatchers have a body with muscle, influence and, crucially, brains. In the Angling Trust (membership 11,000), anglers have a body bereft of all three. As such, the national and local media is routinely fed stories that first seek to portray those who watch birds as heaven-sent conservationists and second try to ensure that anyone or anything that threatens these creatures is depicted as the devil incarnate.
What especially bothers me is just what the outcome would have been if the boot had been on the other foot in this case. What if an angler had decided, for whatever reason, to physically assault a twitcher? Can you imagine the headlines? The angler would have been painted as a cruel Neanderthal bully, the birdwatcher some kind of symbolic martyr, and the sport of fishing forced to take another damaging blow to the stomach.
And if you think I'm exaggerating, there have been precedents. How many ill-informed tales have you read in local and national newspapers where fishermen have been depicted as bird killers? Plenty, I'd guess.
The best recent example was at Bewdley on the River Severn, where a woman called Jan Harrigan attempted to ban angling in the town centre. Despite lead shot having been outlawed since the 1980s, she still claimed very publicly that numerous resident swans had died directly from lead used by anglers. The local papers lapped it up without asking a single question.
Predictably, it turned out the cause of death had nothing to do with fishing at all the blame lie instead with noxious sediment on the river bed. Yet had it not been for the campaigning efforts of local resident and AT
columnist, Des Taylor, the ban may well have been enforced and angling stopped for good.
This, sadly, is just one example. Birders don't like anglers. Full stop. Be under no illusion. The RSPB is a well-oiled, well-funded and totally self-interested body. Understandably in its eyes, the welfare of Britain's birds comes first. Any perceived threat, however unfounded and however spurious, is therefore swatted like a fly.
On the contrary, we despite having what should be vast strength given our numbers always seem to be undermined by those that represent us. Just look at cormorants.
Although the sport collated clear evidence that these birds, having seen their natural food source dwindle, were moving from the coast to unnatural feeding grounds inland and devastating coarse fish stocks, it took one hell of a battle for fishery owners to secure the right to cull them simply in order to safeguard their businesses.
Even now, as more and more of these hideous creatures continue to rape both natural and man-made venues, it takes far too long for the necessary paperwork if it is ever granted to be procured.
Look, I know there are many anglers who relish the chance of seeing a bird or two when they're on the bank and many would indeed see themselves as bird lovers.
But the fact remains that the dedicated watchers and their representative body are largely anti-angling.
These people may appear innocent, bedecked as they are in woolly hats, anoraks and binoculars, but be warned: they are no friends of ours. Malcolm Rigby is still bearing the proof of that on his battered face.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:52 pm 
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THis was a violent and stupid attack on a fellow human being,but the articale is unfair,tarring and feathering us all with the same brush,most birders i know never mention anglers but they often do people who shoot birds for fun,e.g. wildfowlers,people abroad,especially malta(READ THE LATEST RSPB BIRDS page 23)with birds such as honey buzzards,harriers and spotted eagle slaughtered for fun.
Dont know what people see in sitting for hours waiting to catch a fish,but i feel if they enjoy it-thats great,,
There is rivalry in birding as this forum has depicted over the years,but most birders are nice people and pretty sociable and would not hesitate to condemm the violence inflicted in the above articale.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:53 pm 
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Certainly a lot of taring with the same brush and assault is assault - violence is surely not an answer!

I still proclaim LBC could be the best club in the UK, and my experience as a returned birder here has certainly made me cautious about birders I do not recognise - once bitten and all that.

I heard of an incident at Kirkby a few years ago about Cormorant heads in the reserve car park, however beating someone up for it is not the solution surely.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:05 am 
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Abstract. Stop Killing Cormorants. This entry summarizes an overview of the reasons to avoid killing cormorants (Phalacrocorax carbo) as a management tool in Europe. First, there are three Phalacrocorax species, two of them endangered (aristotelis and pygmaeus) that do not benefit from the bad image carbo is given. Second because there are enough experience to demonstrate that killing is not a valid option (see above references and linked websites, particularly the redcafe report). And third because there are more 'non-fishermen' than 'fishermen' that do not like to use killing as an option. If there are problems, there are more options, more scientific background and other previous examples elsewhere to avoid 'easy' solutions as shooting wild birds to calm a portion of the population. If you agree with this, why not joining and campaigning for the cause in facebook?.Make this clear. Killing is not an option.
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Etiquetas: Asturies, Catalunya, Cormorán grande, facebook, Phalacrocorax aristotelis, Phalacrocorax carbo, Phalacrocorax pygmaeus

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:38 am 
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Firstly, whoever attacked this poor individual has achieved nothing more than hardening the attitude of anglers to birdwatchers and vice versa. There is never an excuse for violence, however strongly you feel about something.

Secondly, is there more moral justification in shooting cormorants to protect fish stocks which are to be taken for sport (and in the case of most trout, killed and eaten) than shooting hen harriers to protect grouse stocks which are to be killed for sport?

Leaving aside the rarity and legal issues and the commercial aspects both in the end are just killing for sport!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:59 pm 
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i agree david, killing for fun ( sport ) is abhorrant and i think it shows the human species to not have evolved much if at all from our extremely primative ancestors that i am sure only killed for self defence or to eat, over 200 woodcock in a day at skeggy last year is a good example. :cry: :cry:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:34 pm 
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Steve Partner's article in the Angling Times certainly makes sensational print. His diatribe does the angling lobby scant favour, and it's divisiveness must leave a negative response from an impartial reader.

I would have to scan far and wide to read of phrases, in one short article, such as 'unbearably sanctimonious', 'near biblical', 'a world populated by obsessives', 'bitter rivalries', 'fanatics', 'birdwatching's paramilitary wing', 'serious and sad', 'the nauseating Bill Oddie' etc.

Some years ago we lived and occasionally travelled on a narrowboat and,unfortunately, were often subjected to verbal abuse from the angling community as we passed their canal-side positions. I was once threatened by an angler after remonstrating against their hurling of stones at a pair of Mute Swans(why, I know not) - their response, You can f... off!

I abhor the extreme violence toward the Cormorant killing individual and I trust R.S.P.B. will respond to the Angling Times article with a measured response.

Thanks to Graham Catley for bringing this article to my notice.

Richard.......


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:52 pm 
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Are there, by any chance, some dedicated anglers amongst our LBC members who may wish to add a comment or two?
I shouldn't think the two hobbies are necessarily mutually exclusive...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:42 am 
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I have been an angler for more than 50 years and a member of LBC for 3-4 years. Firstly I must say that the violence described in the Angling Times (to which I subscribed for many years) cannot be condoned. As an angler I have suffered the frustration of sitting on a river bank catching nothing, whilst watching a conmorant or a seal comes up with a plump roach which might have won me the match. That said, I would no more wish to harm either the bird or the animal than I would want to kill a raptor because it fed on a favourite smaller species. If it were a case of our NEEDING the fish in order to survive, then there might be a case, but this is so obviously not so, and therefore each species must be allowed to gather food where it can.
Cormorants turned to inland fisheries because they could not find sufficient food at sea. (Is that the fault of our over-fishing?) At first it was in the rivers, but angling has now changed too. Land-owners looking fo a quick buck have dug holes in their land and over-filled them with fish. Anglers looking for easy (boring?!) fishing choose to pay large sums to fish these venues rather than the rivers. Is there any wonder that cormorants and herons and other birds see these ponds as well-stocked larders.
When I am out now, either fishing (on a river) or bird-watch, I enjoy Nature. If I am fishing and the birds catch more than I do, then good luck to them. If I don't catch anything I can try another day. If the birds don't catch they don't survive, and that would be a loss to us all.
I have met many great anglers who have done much good for nature conservation, and I have met some who should not be allowed near a fishery, but then there are good and bad amongst birders too! I do not see that there needs to be any conflict between anglers and birders, but then perhaps I am being a little naive and am forgetting human nature.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:35 pm 
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Hi patrick,
A great submission,and if there were prizes your response would win hands down,super.
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Patrick,
Great to see a natural stance in your welcomed reply. Wish I could write that well in forums! I'd like to echo the thanks to the response and the touch on the good / bad birders which I tried to reflect on too.
In life there is always two sides, sometimes though its a pity when its unbalanced. Aggression and assault can certainly be eliminated from both passions. I'm no angel, but I try to contain my anger / excitement ( situation dependent) and believe everyone has a right to express their opinion and be listened to, but thats not physical assault is it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:29 pm 
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I have followed this thread with interest. I make no comment on Mr Partner's article as others have adequately summed up on some of his quite ridiculous claims. The whole issue cannot be simplified as Angler versus Birdwatcher. The expansion of the "continental" subspecies Phalacrocorax carbo sinensis in the 1990's to Inland Waters in the UK was the start of the problem as Phalacrocorax carbo was mainly a coastal breeder. Extensive research by Graham Ekins et al at Abberton Reservoir using colour ringing and dna has established that both carbo and carbo sinensis are both now found on inland waters. However, it is legal in this country to cull the species under licence. This is an emotive subject and can only be altered through due legal process brought about by, amongst other things, lobbying elected representatives. This does not include taking the law into your own hands or gratuitous violence.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:13 pm 
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Anglers and birders can be equally passionate about their hobbies. An angling friend of mine has a tattoo of a carp across his back. Do any Lincolnshire birders have a Barn Owl tattoo? And if so where?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:15 am 
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nicely put patrick and all, surely the views of all reasonable people who have not got any marbles loose. violence never solves anything and the landowners or people who own or have the fishing rights do not soley own all gods creatures that live or visit the land to eat to survive, that is nature which always seems to find its own balance when left alone. who has fished the seas out !! surely to try and survive does not warrant a death sentence. every pointed interest group wants to get rid of something, finches etc ( fruit growers ) grebes/herons/goosanders/otters etc trout streams any time you see pheasant feeders its bad news for stoats weasels owls hawks, badgers ( beef farmers )etc. we must all co exist on this earth or we all will surely all perish and what was acceptable years ago is less so now. the real problem now is the pressure upon the earth through over population, the earth cannot keep sustaining this population growth. today on the earth there are more people alive than have ever died and wildlife is being ever more squeezed into doing the unnatural to survive eg urban foxes / bears in america inland cormorants etc. the real bogey man is the person who applied to shoot cormorants thinking that all gods creatures are his to do as he pleases with while hiding behind the veil of secrecy that comes with the permission to cull notice, so stuart is correct about lobbying and the workings of gov departments but that does not make it right to kill things in this manner. :cry: :cry:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:20 am 
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just as a matter of interest i went with several others black-throated thrushing yesterday and lee evans happened to be there had a bit of a natter as to libelous content etc but he told me he has replied to the letter published and if anyone ever see this letter in print it should be an interesting read, :) :)
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