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Author:  Joe Mould [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Marsh tit or Willow tit?

Hi all

Does anyone have any advice on how to distinguish between the Marsh tit and the Willow tit please? I have seen a number of single individuals on recent visits to Messingham Sand Quarry, typically foraging amongst a larger party of Long tailed, Blue and Great tits. I am aware the call is the main distinguishing factor but quite often I find this is drowned out by the calls of the rest of the flock.

Thanks

Joe

Author:  Stuart Britton [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marsh tit or Willow tit?

Joe,
They are extremely difficult to distinguish even in the hand. http://www.bto.org/gbw/Species/BIRDS/_WILTI.htm may help. In this county, a generalization is that Marsh Tits can be found in and south of the Nocton/Potterhanworth Woods area whereas Willow Tits occur in isolated pockets to the north of that. Both are highly sedentary - ringing has shown that only 10% of Marsh Tits move more than 10km.from the place of ringing. Less than 25% of recoveries of ringed Willow Tits show a movement over 5km. from the place of ringing. Other more regular observers at Messingham may help but I would think that only Willow Tits can be found there.

Author:  Joe Mould [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marsh tit or Willow tit?

Stuart,
Thanks for the response. I must admit I was swayed perhaps more towards Willow tit than Marsh tit on my initial observation so, based on what you've said it look likely that's probably what I saw. I'll make mention of it the next time i'm down at Messingham to see if anyone else has come across them recently as well.

Author:  Kev Wilson [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marsh tit or Willow tit?

Joe

If you get British Birds, there is an article in the Nov 2009 vol 102 issue on seperation of willow and marsh

Kev

Author:  Joe Mould [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Marsh tit or Willow tit?

Kev

Thanks for that i'll see if I can dig it out.

Joe

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