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Author:  Ian Misselbrook [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Turtle Doves

5.05 pm A pair of Turtle Doves in Honeypot Lane (between Colsterworth and Birkholme) in SW Lincs.

Observer; Sue Misselbrook

Cheers

Ian

Author:  Stuart Britton [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Turtle Doves

2 calling at Walesby Moor at 5a.m. today plus 2 Garden Warblers, 4 Blackcaps (1f) and several Willow Warblers.

Author:  Graham Catley [ Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Turtle Doves

for the first year in living memory no Turtle Doves have summered or bred at Barton or Barrow Haven this year with only a couple of spring migrants recorded; balance this with the 30+ pairs that bred in the early 1970's and peak spring passage days of 100+ birds moving west in late May.

a random search from my archive:

Barton 72w May 31st 1983, 2j Oct 1st 1995

Barrow Haven 172 west in 4 hrs May 14th 1977,
101w May 8th 1979,
173 west May 18-22nd 1981 with 100 22nd.

South Ferriby 156 feeding in one harvested field Aug 26th 1992 ( I failed to note what the crop had been)

Author:  Ian Misselbrook [ Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Turtle Doves

Hi,

A pair in Rippingale fen and a pair in Dunsby Fen at present, but still very thin on the ground compared with only a few years ago. In the late 80's and early 90@s they even bred in the hedge bordering my garden!

Best regards,

Ian

Author:  Stephen Lorand [ Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Turtle Doves

The recent declines of many of our familiar migrant species is extremely disconcerting, but that of the Turtle Dove is perhaps one of the most lamentable. I have looked through the Donna Nook log-books and found that counts during the 1960s and 1970s, although slightly lower than Graham’s numbers on the Humber bank, still closely corresponded with his records. During northward spring passage, 60-90 birds in a day were not infrequent in May or early June. Over 100 birds were noted on several dates and a peak of 138 was recorded on 1st June 1979. Numbers were still good during the 1980s, but already there were decreases starting to become apparent in some years.

Nowadays, we tend to overlook the fact that the occupation of the Turtle Dove in Lincolnshire has been only short-lived. In 1896, Alfred Newton in his Dictionary of Birds stated ‘that it was one of those species which was extending its area. In England, not much more than a century ago (ca 1790) it seems to have been chiefly, if not solely, known in southern and western counties. Though in the character of a straggler only, it now reaches the extreme north of Scotland, and is perhaps nowhere more abundant than in many of the midland and eastern counties of England.’

Its spread north and north-west ensured that it attained a foothold in southern Lincolnshire by the 1860s, and it became more generally distributed in the northern districts of the county by the 1880s and 1890s. The same type of spread, though less well-documented and probably linked to climate amelioration, was also noted on the continent and during the last forty years of the 19th century it even appeared as a casual visitor within the Arctic Circle.

Interestingly, William Tait, author of the Birds of Portugal (1924) gave a vivid impression on how numerous the species used to be. In his chapter on Migration, he writes of the immense numbers of Turtle Doves passing along the Portuguese coast and quoted some of the older sportsmen who lamented that Turtle Doves were not then so numerous as they had been. An account, perhaps exaggerated, of just one man netting 700 doves in a single spring is dismaying to say the least. In 1959, Bannerman in his Birds of the British Isles stated that we can take some comfort from Tait’s acclamation that the profusion of Turtle Doves all over Portugal was (at that date) so great during the summer months ‘where the pleasing coo-ing can be heard almost wherever one goes, that much powder and shot and much perseverance will be required before their numbers are reduced to any appreciable extent. Bannerman then concluded that we must hope that Tait’s forecast holds true today.

Sadly, the recent decreases and contraction in distribution, particularly in peripheral areas, appear to be ever-hastening. Several causes are no doubt attributable to these losses. Habitat loss, autumnal sowing of crops and the eradication of weeds by spraying have all contributed to this decline on the breeding grounds, The African wintering areas have also been subjected to much habitat destruction as well as suffering from the severe drought conditions in some areas. Meanwhile, the sustained hunting pressures across the length and breadth of the Mediterranean region are well-documented and fill one with a sense of despair for the future of the species.a

Author:  Cliff Morrison [ Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Turtle Doves Saltfleetby-Theddlethorpe NNR

Turtle Doves between Churchill and the south end of the reserve are up this year, but I don't believe they are having much success. There are 2 pairs between Churchill and Brickyard, then another 2 between Brickyard and Crook Bank and probably 1 pair beyond Crook Bank southwards.
The birds arrived on time, but territories keep shifting within each pair's general area, so I presume that they are falling victim to magpies, where we have had a half dozen pairs plus the none breeders.

Currently the pair closest to our house, at Brickyard Lane, has moved into our garden, but I never go nest hunting. We also have 2 pairs of wood pigeons, 2 pairs of collared doves and 1 pair of stock doves, all of which are calling against each other as I type this. Dove heaven, but from their perspective a hazardous area, since I've witnessed a couple of wood pigeon nests with eggs emptied over the past month, even though I thought they were extremely well hidden.

The problem is that we had/have a family of squirrels in one of the big conifers and I believe that they are as big a culprit as the magpies, where we have a late brood knocking around the garden at the moment. We also had 2 pairs of successful jackdaws, so they would have been nest prospecting as well.

There's still time for the turtle doves to get young off.......hopefully

Regards,
Cliff

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