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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:57 pm 
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A cracking morning's butterflying this morning with 10+ White Admiral, 1 Black Hairstreak, 4 White Letter Hairstreak, Comma, 15 Marbled White, 1 Red Admiral.

However, the biggest surprise was a large fritillary, considered almost definitely to be Dark Green Fritillary, seen on two occassions and seen very well in flight at 5 Lanes approx 11:15am.

Both myself and Mark Bibby (and a gentleman from Notts), who saw it would be grateful for any feedback regarding the status of this butterfly in Lincs or if anybody has seen them at this locality, and if anybody needs more info then please feel free to contact myself or Mark.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:51 pm 
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the gentleman from Notts was not emptying his pockets at the time was he?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:00 pm 
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No It was a different bloke!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:00 am 
The large fritillary record cannot be accepted as a record although it could have been. We have no Dark Green Fritillaries in Lincolnshire but a few sometimes fly over from Norfolk some years.

I would like to know the name of the person from Nottinghamshire that was with you, did he have a bike?

I know that someone has recently released Scotch Argus at Little Scrubbs Meadow like they did at Crowle Waste. He may have released the fritillary you saw also.

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I also saw large fritillary about a week ago. Strong flier. I thought it could be SWF but it was suggested it may have been a dark green fritillary.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:52 pm 
BC Lincs Branch Moth Recorder - Toby Ludlow in the past tells me he also thought he saw a Fritillary at Chambers Wood but it turned out to be a male Emperor Moth.

My wife and I thought we had seen a fritillary while carrying out survey work for the National Trust in Nottinghamshire last week, our butterfly turned out to be a male Oak Eggar moth. We saw 15 of these moths flying across the tops of the bracken at very high speed.

It is possible people are seeing a fritillary at Chambers Farm Wood, but if it is, then it is most likley to have been released.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:29 pm 
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Allan

Thank you for the information on the Scotch Argus. A couple of weekends ago I was in Little Scrubs meadow catching up with a few remaining Marbled Whites when I saw 3 dark brown butterflies along the right hand hedgerow. They were very active and only settled briefly for a few seconds. I was baffled as to what they were, but only one species sprung to mind - Scotch Argus. Unable to get any photographs and considering I was in mid Lincolnshire I thought I was seeing things so dismissed them. Maybe I shouldn't have been quite so hasty.

On the subject of Marbled Whites, do you know if those at Red Hill are introductions?

Also are you aware of any up to date information on the staus of Butterflies in Lincs and which sites have introductions?

Finally on the subject that started this thread, I notice that on the excellent UK Butterflies website they list Saltfleetby/Theddlethorpe Dunes as a site for Dark Green Fritillary - does anyone know how recently they were there?

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Lance, there’s no point reporting anything out of the norm because no one believes us!!!! anyway who cares what others think I, FOR A FACT KNOW WHAT I SAW!
Alan you seem to know that the bloke who is releasing these butterflies owns a bike but it seems strange you don’t know his name?? when every one else does, or are you just trying to get some one else to highlight the problem for you because you don’t want to?
The man from Notts with us on the day was a birder who has took up an interest in butterflies for the summer. The man, who got into a car at the end of the day was a different person to whom you seem to have jumped to the conclusion of it being.
As regards the insect/s I saw there is no chance it was a moth even though I only saw it in flight, frits in flight are distinctive as you know.
As regards to the butterflies not being in the in the county should the current Lesser yellow leg’s or Long billed Dowitcher be at Gib, NO!
If you check last years records there was quite a few frits reported out of their normal haunts e.g.: Notts, Northants. Please tell me why not in Lincs?

Finally it seems to me that if you not one of the few who’s allowed to report new species or new site then why bother?. Some peoples attitudes don’t encourage others to report their finds.

Mark Bibby


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Mark Bibby wrote:
Lance, there’s no point reporting anything out of the norm because no one believes us!!!! anyway who cares what others think I, FOR A FACT KNOW WHAT I SAW!
Alan you seem to know that the bloke who is releasing these butterflies owns a bike but it seems strange you don’t know his name?? when every one else does, or are you just trying to get some one else to highlight the problem for you because you don’t want to?
The man from Notts with us on the day was a birder who has took up an interest in butterflies for the summer. The man, who got into a car at the end of the day was a different person to whom you seem to have jumped to the conclusion of it being.
As regards the insect/s I saw there is no chance it was a moth even though I only saw it in flight, frits in flight are distinctive as you know.
As regards to the butterflies not being in the in the county should the current Lesser yellow leg’s or Long billed Dowitcher be at Gib, NO!
If you check last years records there was quite a few frits reported out of their normal haunts e.g.: Notts, Northants. Please tell me why not in Lincs?

Finally it seems to me that if you not one of the few who’s allowed to report new species or new site then why bother?. Some peoples attitudes don’t encourage others to report their finds.

Mark Bibby




Very well put Mark

The chap you was with at chambers his name is Des

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Hi Mark
It seems so. I have been recording butterflies since I was a wee lepidopterist and definitely know a Fritillary when I see it. This was no oak eggar. Fast flight gliding and fluttering. It was so alert I could not get close enough to photograph it. Keeping one step ahead of me all the time.


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Looking back on this story .. could I be the mystery cyclist ???
I was with the 3 chaps in the afternoon looking for hairstreaks .
I knew 2 of them by sight having seen and met them at various birding
sites within Lincs . The other bloke was not known by me .
As I live at Fiskerton I regularly cycle to Chambers and other local sites .
All 3 seemed competent at butterfly ID and I am sure they all knew what they had seen.


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