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 Post subject: Marsh tit or Willow tit?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:00 pm 
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Hi all

Does anyone have any advice on how to distinguish between the Marsh tit and the Willow tit please? I have seen a number of single individuals on recent visits to Messingham Sand Quarry, typically foraging amongst a larger party of Long tailed, Blue and Great tits. I am aware the call is the main distinguishing factor but quite often I find this is drowned out by the calls of the rest of the flock.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:15 pm 
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Joe,
They are extremely difficult to distinguish even in the hand. http://www.bto.org/gbw/Species/BIRDS/_WILTI.htm may help. In this county, a generalization is that Marsh Tits can be found in and south of the Nocton/Potterhanworth Woods area whereas Willow Tits occur in isolated pockets to the north of that. Both are highly sedentary - ringing has shown that only 10% of Marsh Tits move more than 10km.from the place of ringing. Less than 25% of recoveries of ringed Willow Tits show a movement over 5km. from the place of ringing. Other more regular observers at Messingham may help but I would think that only Willow Tits can be found there.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:41 pm 
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Stuart,
Thanks for the response. I must admit I was swayed perhaps more towards Willow tit than Marsh tit on my initial observation so, based on what you've said it look likely that's probably what I saw. I'll make mention of it the next time i'm down at Messingham to see if anyone else has come across them recently as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:48 pm 
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Joe

If you get British Birds, there is an article in the Nov 2009 vol 102 issue on seperation of willow and marsh

Kev


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:33 pm 
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Kev

Thanks for that i'll see if I can dig it out.

Joe


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