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Russell Hayes
 Post subject: Your thoughts please
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:16 pm 
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Brent type goose seen today at Gibraltar Point

see image here http://www.lincsbirdclub.co.uk/album/albums/userpics/10013/P1190326m.jpg

Your thoughts please.

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Derick Evans
 Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:31 pm 
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Hi Russell.
Had brief but half decent views of a similar looking goose at Tetney recently. Guessed it was a hybrid.
Having said that having a slightly less prominent white flank patch,
or a white neck collar that doesn't reach quite so far round the the neck as in this bird, is probably not positive evidence of hybrid identity.
One wonders how common hybrids are?

http://birdingfrontiers.com/2014/05/08/ ... ent-goose/

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Chris Atkin
 Post subject: Re: Your thoughts please
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Would like to see the underparts to confirm but looking like a Pale-bellied Brent to me

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Russell Hayes
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Thanks Derick, hybrid was an initial thought.

Managed this shot as it flew off Chris. It may be a little over exposed but I think it highlights the light belly.

Perhaps Pale-bellied x Dark bellied


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Phil Hyde
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Why a hybrid Russ? Looks like Pale-bellied Brent doesn't it?
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Russell Hayes
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Phil, the bird didn't look quite right to me compared to the limited number of other pale-bellied's I have seen.
Others have seen the bird and the pictures and also have some doubts.
I am always open to your's and other's opinions.

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Phil Hyde
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I'm certainly no expert on goose hybrids but your flight shot seems to show clean cut white underparts ?
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Derick Evans
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Haven't seen flight shot. More thought required.

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Seeing those underparts says Pale-bellied Brent to me. I'm struggling to see anything that would suggest otherwise.

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Derick Evans
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Would the grey on the belly extend between the legs on Pale-bellied?

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Derick Evans
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Always learning something about our hobby but Viewing pictures on phone doesn't help much. Will take another look at home. Any more thoughts on this Brent Goose?

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Russell Hayes
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The growing consensus seems to be in favour of Pale-bellied Brent, I am happy to agree with those that have more experience of this breed.

Thanks for all your replies.

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